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Page 87 of 486 Petrojam Limited Integrity Commission October 2019 It’s last minute, but would you please sit in on this thing for me. I just want an unbiased opinion. So I didn’t. If I thought it was strange or if I knew anybody involved I would not have gone because this is not the first time I am interviewing people. Well not at this level but I have interviewed people over time and even on the committees I sit on now, I sit on all manner of different things. If I know the person, I am excusing myself. I don’t want it to be said that you are biased towards the process. So I didn’t think it was strange. If it was, I wouldn’t have gone, really. [IC OFFICER] : But on the basis though, that you would have been external Petrojam, would that have been of concern to you? A: No. Actually, well maybe I am wrong I don’t know, but I thought it was a good thing . The type of management I did, you are taught that sometimes when you are doing certain assessments, for example in doing procurement of certain types of equipment and that type of thing, sometimes you have to get an external person who is unbiased and who has no allegiance to whichever company. I have done it and I have seen benefits really because some people tend to go for cheapest things. So somebody external to the process who is a thinker and who can assess can provide