REDACTED -IC Petrojam Investigation - Donations October 2019 final

Page 39 of 215 Petrojam Limited Integrity Commission October 2019 A: And the Ministry of Finance too, they were aware. Because they got that report as well . CHAIRMAN: You have raised multiple questions in …relation to not only the quantum of the donations, but I would say the quality of the donations, is that a fair thing to say? A: It was irregular from what I have experienced. I cannot say before my time what happened, but during my time I have never seen the sort of spend in this particular manner. Because the next question you normally ask is, are you getting value for money as a corporate entity . Normally that's what you do, and if you don't see where you are getting any advertising exposure, any promotion and thing to show that you are a good corporate citizen, then the question is you know, is it really something that you normally do . That justification, that document would normally have to be done up, and something was put forward but not from my department, but by the - So I thought it was a bit irregular and unusual for some of them. CHAIRMAN: Would you go as far as to say in your opinion whether you are of the view any amount was misappropriated? A: I can't say because in my - In the case where I saw where any deviations in terms of the payment side, that was when I intercepted it and said no, it is not